Jan, Eric Barger, and Jill Martin Rische discuss the normalization of the occult today, even in the church. They target an issue of "Christianity Today" where we are encouraged to reflect on monsters and other dark issues. We carry Eric Barger's excellent book, "Entertaining Spirits Unaware: The End-Time Occult Invasion," found here. Jan then interviews American Family Association President Tim Wildmon as to why his organization was called a hate group recently. How far will the secular world go to marginalize Christians and all we stand for? Very far. The Bible predicts it. Find info on our mobile app here. We tap into the app from OnePlace.com