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You Are Still a Mother (Part Three) - Jackie Gibson

May 9, 2025

In this FamilyLife Today podcast episode, Dave and Ann Wilson speak to Johnny and Jackie Gibson as they share their deeply moving journey through grief after the stillbirth of their daughter, Layla. Johnny opens up about the painful experience of losing Layla in 2016, a tragedy that left them both devastated. The couple talks about their personal ways of coping with grief, including how they involved their young son, Ben, in the grieving process. Ben, at just three and a half years old, asked poignant questions that prompted profound conversations about death and faith. Johnny shares how these conversations inspired him to write The Moon is Always Round, a book about grief and hope told from Ben’s perspective.


The couple discusses how they handled their grief differently but remained close throughout the process. They mention how they supported each other through the journey and how their marriage grew stronger as a result of facing this tragic loss together. The importance of open communication and space to grieve in different ways is highlighted, as well as the comfort they found in their faith and the church community.


In addition, they share touching personal rituals, like visiting Layla’s grave and engaging in a family catechism, to honor her memory. Johnny reflects on how their daughter's legacy continues to impact many people through the book and how the royalties from The Moon is Always Round fund the Layla the Evangelist scholarship, helping train future Christian evangelists. This episode is a powerful testament to faith, grief, and the ways in which even the shortest lives can leave an enduring impact.

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Dave and Ann Wilson are co-hosts of FamilyLife Today©, FamilyLife’s nationally-syndicated radio program.

Dave and Ann have been married for more than 40 years and have spent the last 35 teaching and mentoring couples and parents across the country. They have been featured speakers at FamilyLife’s Weekend to Remember® since 1993, and have also hosted their own marriage conferences across the country.

Dave and Ann helped plant Kensington Community Church in Detroit, Michigan where they served together in ministry for more than three decades, wrapping up their time at Kensington in 2020.

The Wilsons are the creative force behind DVD teaching series Rock Your Marriage and The Survival Guide To Parenting, as well as authors of the recently released books Vertical Marriage (Zondervan, 2019) and No Perfect Parents (Zondervan, 2021).

Dave is a graduate of the International School of Theology, where he received a Master of Divinity degree. A Ball State University Hall of Fame Quarterback, Dave served the Detroit Lions as Chaplain for thirty-three years. Ann attended the University of Kentucky. She has been active with Dave in ministry as a speaker, writer, small group leader, and mentor to countless women.

The Wilsons live in the Detroit area. They have three grown sons, CJ, Austin, and Cody, three daughters-in-law, and a growing number of grandchildren.

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